tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24675950.post116049859850595578..comments2023-07-02T08:05:57.928-04:00Comments on The Rogue Historian: Idiots and the BallotRogueHistorianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11573695051575323278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24675950.post-1161385487960046322006-10-20T19:04:00.000-04:002006-10-20T19:04:00.000-04:00Oh, I almost forgot, since, "Sophie," I can see th...Oh, I almost forgot, since, "Sophie," I can see that you went trawling for blogs which rightly decry 207 and that I was able to track your ip to Milford, Connecticut, (not to mention the fact that your profile was created only this month and you don't actually have a blog of your own), I have to wonder if you are who you say you are.RogueHistorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573695051575323278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24675950.post-1161384449722435182006-10-20T18:47:00.000-04:002006-10-20T18:47:00.000-04:00First of all, they are not fighting for your right...First of all, they are not fighting for <I>your</I> rights. They are fighting to make more money for land developers and speculators (many of whom do not even live in this state).<BR/><BR/>Second, property rights have always been regualted in the U.S. It actually goes back to English Common Law, where the individual is expected to give up some of their rights for the good of the public. So it's not like the government took something away from you and you now have to get it back. It's something you never had.<BR/><BR/>Third, 207 will necessitate the creation of absolutely massive amounts of government bureaucracy in order to determine what effect a government action might have on a piece of property.<BR/><BR/>Forth, with the increase in bureaucracy and having to pay property owners for <I><B>every</B></I> government action (including things like putting in road signs, easements, and street lights), taxes and fees will go through the roof.<BR/><BR/>Fifth, 207 tries to throw out more than half a century of U.S. Supreme Court Rulings which have have always said that Eminent Domain is a legal and justified use of government authority.<BR/><BR/>Sixth, it will throw out almost every zoning law, meaning that your neighbor in your quiet little back-street suburban neighborhood could tear down their single family residence and build a ten-story condo building.<BR/><BR/>Seventh, it will effectively end government directed historic preservation.<BR/><BR/>Eight, the Prop does not actually deal with Eminent Domain - it's taking about Takings, which have also been repeatedly up-help as a legitimate exercise of Police Power by the state.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, the idea of protecting people from the big, bad government and abuse of power is great. But 207 is simply a tool for developers and speculators, disguised as a protection for the people. Believe me, I work with a real estate lawyer, and he opposes 207 (along with the State Historic Preservation Office, the Attorney General of Arizona, and nearly every level of the state and city government).RogueHistorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573695051575323278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24675950.post-1161059388919262382006-10-17T00:29:00.000-04:002006-10-17T00:29:00.000-04:00I don't know if I agree as to the greatness of ref...I don't know if I agree as to the greatness of referendums. In fact, I know I don't. Mostly, I just view them as a way for wussy politicians to wimp their way out of making tough decisions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02737980462115396236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24675950.post-1160528889540564482006-10-10T21:08:00.000-04:002006-10-10T21:08:00.000-04:00yeah--the whole referendum thing sounds great. Dir...yeah--the whole referendum thing sounds great. Direct democracy and all that. But some of the things that get on the ballots--yikes!<BR/><BR/>In Washington state, there are always all kinds of propositions and referenda that get passed but are then declared unconstitutional. So they end up costing a ridiculous amount of money--first to implement and then to de-implement.<BR/><BR/>I think you're quite right that a lot of this legislation gets passed because folks don't actually know what they're voting for.Feemushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01333137107196677329noreply@blogger.com